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Saturday, March 23, 2013

“…the Obama administration is arming his DHS for war…” Says Retired Army Captain | The D.C. Clothesline

“…the Obama administration is arming his DHS for war…” Says Retired Army Captain | The D.C. Clothesline

Today retired Army Captain Terry M. Hestilow shared a copy of a letter to Texas Senator Jim Cornyn via his Facebook page. This is a very strong letter that holds nothing back and I thought everyone should see it. Below is a verbatim copy of the letter.

The Honorable Senator John Cornyn, State of Texas

United States Senate

517 Hart Senate Office Building

Washington, D.C. 20510

Re: Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and that agencies preparation for war against citizens of the United States of America.
Dear Senator Cornyn,
It is with gravest concern that I write to you today concerning the recent appropriation of weapons by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that can only be understood as a bold threat of war by that agency, and the Obama administration, against the citizens of the United States of America. To date, DHS has been unwilling to provide to you, the elected representatives of the People, justification for recent purchases of almost 3,000 mine-resistant ambush-protected (MRAP) armored personnel carriers, 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition (with associated weapons), and other weapons systems, when, in fact, the DHS has no war mission or war making authority within the limits of the United States of America.
Significant is the fact that at the same time the Obama administration is arming his DHS for war within the limits of the United States against the People of the United States in accordance with his 2008 campaign speech claiming,
“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve gotta (sic) have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded [as the United States military]”–Candidate Barack Obama, 2008.
the Obama administration is deliberately defunding, overextending, and hollowing the Department of Defense; the only legitimate agency of the U.S. government with a war mission.
This act of the Obama administration stands as a glaring threat of war against our nation’s citizens! This act of the Obama administration can only be understood as a tyrannical threat against the Constitution of the United States of America! If left unresolved, the peace loving citizens who have sworn to defend the United States Constitution “against all enemies, both foreign and domestic” are left no option except to prepare to defend themselves, and the U.S. Constitution, against this Administration’s “coup” against the People and the foundations of liberty fought for and defended for the past 238 years. We have no choice if we honor our oaths.
The only proper response to this threat against the American people is for the representatives of the People, the members of the U.S. House and Senate, to demand in clear terms that the Administration cannot ignore, that the Department of Homeland Security immediately surrender their newly appropriated weapons of war to the Department of Defense (DoD). Further, since the DHS has assumed a position in the Administration to enforce the tyrannical acts of this president against the People of the United States against the limits of the United States Constitution, it remains for the United States Congress to exercise its limiting power in the balancing of powers established by our founding fathers, to disestablish and dissolve the DHS as soon as possible. One needs only to look to the rise of Adolf Hitler, and his associated DHS organizations, the SA and the SS, of 1932-1934, to see the outcome of allowing an agency of government this kind of control over the free citizens of a nation. The people of Germany could not have imagined, until it was too late, the danger of allowing a tyrant this kind of power. We must not be so naïve as to think it will not happen to us as well if we remain passive toward this power grab by the Marxist Obama administration!
Finally, for more than two centuries the nation has lived in peace at home because of the protections of our legitimate military and the many appropriate state and federal law enforcement agencies, supported by Constitutional courts. We stand today at a cross-road. Will we allow this present Administration to overthrow our United States Constitution and its legal processes to amend injustices, or, will we honor our obligations to defend the Constitution against a “domestic” enemy? Our Constitution lays out the proper methods of resolving our differences; and it does not include its overthrow by a rogue agency of a Marxist leadership at home. You, sir, are our constitutionally elected agent to defend our Constitution at home. We are counting upon you. We remain aware, however, of this present threat and will not expose ourselves as an easy prey to the authors of the destruction of our nation.
I know that this letter demands much of you. We elected you because we, the citizens of the State of Texas, believe that you are up to the task at hand and will, against all threats, honor your oath and office. We are also writing to your fellow members of the House and Senate to stand in integrity with the Constitution and against this present threat by the Obama administration and his DHS.
We refuse to surrender our Constitution or our nation!
Resolved,

Captain Terry M. Hestilow

United States Army, Retired

Fort Worth, Texas

March 23, 2013

Brutally Honest: Things you likely didn't know about the Vatican's wealth

Ben's Tiny House

AMERICAN DIGEST: Comment on Earth Hour: Click to Fade

AMERICAN DIGEST: Comment on Earth Hour: Click to Fade: Passover this year, Jews over the whole world say the Blessing of the Sun, a benediction that takes place once in 28 years to mark the return of the sun to its position the day HaShem created it (the fourth day, 5769 years ago).

If there can be a greater contrast to the turning of the lights on Earth-Worship Hour, I am not aware of it.

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Gaither Trio-This is a time I must Sing - YouTube

Gaither Trio-This is a time I must Sing - YouTube

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Friday, March 22, 2013

90Ninety Miles From Tyranny : 'Catch Me If You Can' conman warns over Facebook fraud

Thursday, March 21, 2013

The Adventures of Shylock Holmes

The Adventures of Shylock Holmes SALMONELLA

Since the late 1990’s British farmers have been vaccinating hens against salmonella following a crisis that sickened thousands of people who had consumed infected eggs. Amazingly, this measure has virtually wiped out the health threat in Britain. In 1997, there were 14,771 reported cases of salmonella poisoning there, by 2009 this had dropped to just 581 cases. About 90 percent of British eggs now come from vaccinated hens – it’s required for producers who want to belong to the Lion scheme. The remaining 10 percent come from very small farmers who don’t sell to major retailers.

In contrast, there is no such requirement for commercial hens in the US. Consequently, according to FDA data, there are about 142,000 illnesses every year caused by consuming eggs contaminated by the most common strain of salmonella. Only about one-third of farmers here choose to inoculate their flocks. Farmers cite cost as the main reason not to opt for vaccination –FDA estimates say it would cost about 14 cents a bird. The average hen produces about 260 eggs over the course of her lifetime.

Wait, what? You mean that for 0.05 cents per egg, you can virtually eliminate salmonella poisoning? And this isn't being done in the US, because US farmers have correctly estimated that ignorant consumers aren't savvy enough to insist on this purchase?

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The Adventures of Shylock Holmes

The Adventures of Shylock Holmes

Tax Avoidance

the great Lysander Spooner:

All political power, so called, rests practically upon this matter of money. Any number of scoundrels, having money enough to start with, can establish themselves as a "government"; because, with money, they can hire soldiers, and with soldiers extort more money; and also compel general obedience to their will. It is with government, as Caesar said it was in war, that money and soldiers mutually supported each other; that with money he could hire soldiers, and with soldiers extort money. So these villains, who call themselves governments, well understand that their power rests primarily upon money. With money they can hire soldiers, and with soldiers extort money. And, when their authority is denied, the first use they always make of money, is to hire soldiers to kill or subdue all who refuse them more money.

For this reason, whoever desires liberty, should understand these vital facts, viz.: 1. That every man who puts money into the hands of a "government" (so called), puts into its hands a sword which will be used against him, to extort more money from him, and also to keep him in subjection to its arbitrary will. 2. That those who will take his money, without his consent, in the first place, will use it for his further robbery and enslavement, if he presumes to resist their demands in the future. 3. That it is a perfect absurdity to suppose that any body of men would ever take a man's money without his consent, for any such object as they profess to take it for, viz., that of protecting him; for why should they wish to protect him, if he does not wish them to do so? To suppose that they would do so, is just as absurd as it would be to suppose that they would take his money without his consent, for the purpose of buying food or clothing for him, when he did not want it. 4. If a man wants "protection," he is competent to make his own bargains for it; and nobody has any occasion to rob him, in order to "protect" him against his will. 5. That the only security men can have for their political liberty, consists in their keeping their money in their own pockets, until they have assurances, perfectly satisfactory to themselves, that it will be used as they wish it to be used, for their benefit, and not for their injury. 6. That no government, so called, can reasonably be trusted for a moment, or reasonably be supposed to have honest purposes in view, any longer than it depends wholly upon voluntary support.

Quite so.

Wednesday, March 20, 2013

How and Why to Become a Lifelong Learner | The Art of Manliness

How and Why to Become a Lifelong Learner | The Art of Manliness

Coursera. Coursera works with top universities from around the world to offer classes online for free. You can take classes from a variety of disciplines including computer sciences, psychology, and Spanish.
OpenStudy. OpenStudy is a social learning network that allows you to connect with individuals with the same learning goals as you.
Khan Academy. I freaking love Khan Academy. You’ll find over 4,000 videos covering topics ranging from algebra to finance to history. My favorite part of Khan Academy, though, is math exercises. You start with basic math and work your way up to calculus in an adaptive, game-like environment. I’ve been slowly going through the exercises to freshen up on my math.
Duolingo. Free website to learn foreign languages. It’s a pretty cool set up. As you progress through the lessons, you’re simultaneously helping translate websites and other documents.
Code Academy. Learn to code for free with interactive exercises. I wish Code Academy was around when I was learning how to build AoM. It would have helped a lot.
edX. Harvard University and MIT partnered together to create interactive, free online courses. The same world-renowned professors that teach at Harvard and MIT have created the courses on edX. You can find courses for just about any subject. I’ve signed up for a class called The Ancient Greek Hero. Class started last week, but you can still sign up. Join me!
Udacity. Udacity is similar to edX and Coursera. College level classes taught online for free.
CreativeLive. I discovered CreativeLive a few weeks ago. It’s an interesting concept. You can watch the live stream of the course being taught for free, but if you want to view the course later and at your own pace you have to pay for it. The courses focus on more creative and business subjects like videography and online marketing. I’ve sat in on a few of the free courses and was impressed with the curriculum.
TED. TED compiles speeches and lectures not only by professors but interesting people from many different walks of life. TED talks are lighter than academic lectures, often quite funny, and concentrate on interesting ideas and concepts. And most are 20 minutes or less, so they’re great for those with a short attention span.
iTunes U. Download thousands of free podcast lectures taught by the best professors from around the world and learn while in your car.
YouTube EDU. Instead of watching a bunch of auto-tuned cats, enrich your mind by browsing through YouTube EDU. They have thousands of videos that cover a variety of topics.
For more ideas on free learning resources, check out this post: How to Become a Renaissance Man Without Spending a Dime

Tuesday, March 19, 2013

Patterico's Pontifications

Patterico's Pontifications: a post about a WSJ review of the largest taxpayers.

To identify the companies that pay the most taxes, 24/7 Wall St. reviewed corporate tax payments for the top 150 companies by revenue. … These are the companies paying the most in taxes:

1. ExxonMobil
• Income tax expense: $31.05 billion
• Earnings before taxes: $78.73 billion
• Revenue: $428.38 billion
•1-year share price change: 6.56%
• Industry: Oil and gas …

2. Chevron
• Income tax expense: $20.00 billion
• Earnings before taxes: $46.33 billion
• Revenue: $222.58 billion
• 1-year share price change: 9.52%
• Industry: Oil and gas

Exxon paid approx 39% of of their profits in taxes, which had a primary negative impact on women, children, elderly, and minorities, with an extraordinarily obscene profit margin of 11%.

Chevron paid approx 43% of their ill-gotten evil profits in taxes, with a profit margin of a grotesque 11% profit margin.

They should be jailed for profiteering on the backs on the American people.

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Doug Ross @ Journal: What the Democrat Party Told Me

Curmudgeonly & Skeptical presents Boned Jello

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Obama honest!

Sunday, March 17, 2013

Matt Ridley: Burning fossil fuels is greening the planet | AEIdeas

Sunday Sermons in Common Sense: The Greening of the Earth @ AMERICAN DIGEST

Wednesday, March 13, 2013

WATCH – ‘Fell Off The Face Of The Earth’ – CNN: No Record Of Adam Lanza Existence Since 2009 � Pat Dollard

Tuesday, March 12, 2013

Deconstructing Lyin' Ryan (Again) in [Market-Ticker]

Deconstructing Lyin' Ryan (Again)

The Market Ticker ® - Commentary on The Capital Markets

Posted 2013-03-12 12:27
by Karl Denninger
in Federal Government

Deconstructing Lyin' Ryan (Again)

Ok, now we have the document.
I want to focus your attention in one place, and only one place -- because it's the only place that matters.

In the next decade, Social Security will grow at an annual average of 5.8 percent. Medicare will grow at 6.2 percent. And Medicaid—thanks in part to its expansion under the health-care law—will grow at an astounding 9.9 percent. All of these programs are growing substantially faster than the economy.....

Good luck on those astoundingly optimistic figures.
Social Security has expanded at a rate of about 6% annually over the last 30 years. That's fairly close. But Medicare and Medicaid are not; the expansion from 1980 to today has been at a average compounded rate of approximately 9% and full-charge hospital bills are currently expanding at 10% a year and have been for the last several years.
Note carefully that the latter is not the government's cost, it's the cost in the broad economy!

Leave the net interest aside as that's a consequence of the two pieces directly under it.
Note that Social Security, after rising for a few years, begins to plateau and in fact starts to fall after about 2030. That's because the Boomers begin to pass on.
The medical explosion is not due to the boomers. It is due to the underlying systemic expansion of cost that in turn is driven by monopoly practices and cost-shifting, mostly to people in the United States.
A particularly outrageous but by no means isolated example is the scorpion antivenom that I wrote about -- made in Mexico for $100/dose and north of $35,000 a dose when administered in a US hospital. That's a mark-up of more than 350 times cost!
But it gets worse. Ryan claims that there's a "raid" on the Medicare "trust fund." He's lying.
Last year Medicare took in $201 billion in tax revenues. But between Medicare and Medicaid the Federal government spent just north of one trillion dollars, or five times what it took in. There is no "trust fund" to raid when you are spending five times the amount you collected in taxes. Any such assertion is a bald lie.
Worse, the attempted shift of Medicaid to the states will bankrupt all of them within five years. That's the arithmetic -- there is no state in the union that can shoulder that expense.
The only solution is to collapse the medical cost structure. It's politically damnable but it has to be done, and done now. Any budget proposal that doesn't have this as its centerpiece is un-serious and unworthy of consideration as it is an open, notorious and public fraud.
A beginning point for this could come in the form of a single two-paragraph law that requires that all health providers publish a price list and charge everyone the same price, irrespective of how they pay. This would make direct comparison of cost possible, and while a minority of care is paid in cash the fact remains that the cash customers would prefer competent care at a lower price over one that is five or ten times as expensive, as is often the case now. This would immediately collapse the high-cost outlier providers, forcing them to either cut that crap out or remove them from the market.
The second step is to remove both EMTALA and all anti-trust protection from the entire medical industry. And the third is to require insurance companies to actually sell insurance -- once the insured-against event happens you no longer have to pay anything -- the company pays you, unlike the present system where you can be co-billed for ridiculous amounts of money and must maintain premium payments or worse, are subject to cancellation even though you paid in for the unexpected and unlikely adverse event!
Ryan's budget also assumes GDP growth of more than 5% annually over the next ten years with no recessions, a feat that has never been achieved in the post-WWII era according to our government's own data. The use of the word "cut" in a budget that grows spending by 3.5% compounded annually is an outrageous lie as well.
But while railing against this is appropriate and necessary, none of it will matter if we don't deal with the medical problem now.
Within approximately two years Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and interest payments will consume all tax receipts. At some point before that happens the markets are nearly-certain to deduce that we are not serious about attending to the budgetary imbalance as we're then borrowing to pay the light bill in the Capitol, say much less anything important like Defense.
When, not if, that recognition occurs there is literally nothing that The Fed or the Government will be able to do about the ensuing flight from assets in this country, as the only remaining step available to the government to fund this escalation of spending will be outright confiscation of some form.
As I have no indication at present that anyone on The Hill will even discuss the fundamental arithmetic that lays behind this irrefutable truth, say much less reduce it to legislative language and introduce it as a bill despite several years of attempting to do so, I am forced to recommend that you prepare for the worst.
I hereby withdraw my formerly-expressed guarded optimism.

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Asimov Posts: 101913 Incept: 2007-08-26 East Tennessee Eastern Time Online	Ouch. ---------- It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity. If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente. 2013-03-12 12:38:53 Permalink
Jal Posts: 485 Incept: 2009-03-25	Quote: Worse, the attempted shift of Medicaid to the states will bankrupt all of them within five years. That's the arithmetic -- there is no state in the union that can shoulder that expense. NO, Since they must have a balanced budget. The states will become the BAD GUYS for cutting the entitlements. 2013-03-12 12:41:45 Permalink
Goforbroke Posts: 5212 Incept: 2007-11-30 Just call me 'Comrade' Online	Guess someone with whom KD had been in contact didn't have their listening ears on. ---------- We have met the enemy and it is us. -- Pogo 2013-03-12 12:42:47 Permalink
Genesis Posts: 128527 Incept: 2007-06-26	Nope Jal. The people can't spend that money whether it funnels through government or not. If you bankrupt the people then state tax receipts collapse and they go bankrupt. It doesn't matter if the path is direct or indirect, what matters is the outcome. ---------- I don't care* if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me* Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. *Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb.* *What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?* 2013-03-12 12:43:55 Permalink
Ugrev Posts: 128 Incept: 2010-03-08 The police state of NY	Karl, I'm curious. Do you send the content of these posts to people like Ryan? if so, what is their reply? 2013-03-12 12:47:09 Permalink
Genesis Posts: 128527 Incept: 2007-06-26	These posts are directly and indirectly getting to a large number of GOP members. You can construe the likely content of their response from my commentary at the end. ---------- I don't care* if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me* Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. *Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb.* *What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?* 2013-03-12 12:49:15 Permalink
Local_yokel Posts: 117 Incept: 2008-12-18	Quote: Within approximately two years Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and interest payments will consume all tax receipts. Should be ten years? 2013-03-12 12:58:01 Permalink
Genesis Posts: 128527 Incept: 2007-06-26	No. Two years. Yes, two, assuming that The Fed indeed allows the long end to rise starting at the end of this year as their alleged goal is met and the economy "recovers." If it does not well then tax receipts will fall too, and the balance problem remains the same. ---------- I don't care* if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me* Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. *Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb.* *What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?* Last modified: 2013-03-12 13:00:23 by genesis 2013-03-12 12:59:36 Permalink
Mrbill Posts: 7702 Incept: 2008-10-19 North Carolina	Genesis wrote.. I hereby withdraw my formerly-expressed guarded optimism. I always read the last paragraph for the real message. Here, it's the message I unfortunately expected. 2013-03-12 13:01:25 Permalink
Local_yokel Posts: 117 Incept: 2008-12-18	I see my mistake: I didn't read the chart well enough. The Y-Axis is percent of GDP, not dollars. Last modified: 2013-03-12 13:05:19 by local_yokel Reason: Added explanation. 2013-03-12 13:03:18 Permalink
Iou Posts: 917 Incept: 2009-03-16 The Twilight Zone Online	It's just a matter of time... ---------- "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."- Frédéric Bastiat 2013-03-12 13:06:41 Permalink
Gatecrasher Posts: 3 Incept: 2012-09-03	Off-topic good (or at least interesting) news: http://nextbigfuture.com/2013/03/transat.... Last modified: 2013-03-12 13:09:10 by gatecrasher Reason: html fail 2013-03-12 13:08:26 Permalink
Apotheoun Posts: 648 Incept: 2009-08-14 MN	"I am forced to recommend that you prepare for the worst." does this mean social unrest? 'cause in my book, this is the worst... ---------- "when despair is all you can see, the end is finally near." "Because there is some good left in this world, AND ITS WORTH FIGHTING FOR!" 2013-03-12 13:17:15 Permalink
Cerich Posts: 536 Incept: 2008-12-17 ga	Thank you Karl 2013-03-12 13:20:37 Permalink
Twainfan Posts: 131 Incept: 2010-12-01 Minnesota	My back of the envelope calculations a year or so ago came up similar... 2015 timeframe of when SS, Healthcare and interest consumed all revenue. I also figured we'd have a currency event by that year as well (if not sooner). All those dollars could come home to roost rather suddenly if the rest of the world gives us the finger, or if they collapse before we do. Ryan is such a ridiculous liar. I saw him on tv this weekend and I couldn't even watch .. the lies were so bad. I'd love to see Karl get on national TV and just pummel these morons into dust... make them admit they're wrong and that the math will win. Buckle up kids, we're in for a bumpy ride. 2013-03-12 13:22:03 Permalink
Apotheoun Posts: 648 Incept: 2009-08-14 MN	This weekend I will be mourning the death of a loved one, I guess I also have to mourn the death of my country as well... Obi Kenobi is not showing up this time... ---------- "when despair is all you can see, the end is finally near." "Because there is some good left in this world, AND ITS WORTH FIGHTING FOR!" 2013-03-12 13:22:36 Permalink
Fraudster Posts: 3803 Incept: 2011-05-10 Online	---------- *"Let China sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world."* - Napoleon Bonaparte *"Circulation ceases first at the outer edges [Europe and Japan]. It will take a while yet for the decay to reach the heart [America]."* - Foundation & Empire by Isaac Asimov 2013-03-12 13:29:32 Permalink
End_the_bubbles Posts: 9393 Incept: 2009-03-25 The New 3rd World	Quote: I hereby withdraw my formerly-expressed guarded optimism. I was, quite frankly, totally baffled at the "optimism" to begin with. I said so at the time: http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs.... http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs.... ---------- In the long run even the most despotic governments with all their brutality and cruelty are no match for ideas. Eventually the ideology that has won the support of the majority will prevail and cut the ground from under the tyrant's feet and rise in rebellion to overthrow their masters. 2013-03-12 13:29:42 Permalink
Northeaster Posts: 51 Incept: 2011-05-13 Massachusetts	Karl, Do you think some of these politicians or aides just play in their responses to you? You're in a unique position to garner attention when you write, the rest of us are usually systematically ignored when we write our CONgress Members. I would think from time to time they intentionally feed you something in the hopes that you run with it. No? Thanks. Last modified: 2013-03-12 13:32:45 by northeaster Reason: grammar 2013-03-12 13:31:19 Permalink
Jal Posts: 485 Incept: 2009-03-25	Quote: It doesn't matter if the path is direct or indirect, what matters is the outcome. Yes, that's true. Shifting the blame is getting to be the #1 priority. 2013-03-12 13:32:25 Permalink
Apotheoun Posts: 648 Incept: 2009-08-14 MN	May we ask what changed today that made you withdraw your optimism? Also does this mean TF will be closing soon? ---------- "when despair is all you can see, the end is finally near." "Because there is some good left in this world, AND ITS WORTH FIGHTING FOR!" 2013-03-12 13:33:02 Permalink
Fraudster Posts: 3803 Incept: 2011-05-10 Online	Quote: I was, quite frankly, totally baffled at the "optimism" to begin with. As was I. Time to take the rose tinted glasses off guys. We are on a one track path to an ugly destination. And there will be no deviation. And frankly, much of it begins with the moral degradation going on in this country. ---------- *"Let China sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world."* - Napoleon Bonaparte *"Circulation ceases first at the outer edges [Europe and Japan]. It will take a while yet for the decay to reach the heart [America]."* - Foundation & Empire by Isaac Asimov 2013-03-12 13:33:48 Permalink
Donethat Posts: 744 Incept: 2009-04-22	With the withdrawal of guarded optimism, what are your informant staffers of the train wreck saying now? Let it blow up? Any country where the corruption of government and law has reached the point the US is in today will not be fixed by eliminating the biggest Ponzi. The "medical" industry has the 3 trillion dollar a year hooks into the government/economy that the banksters can only envy. I suspect any social "disorder" that occurs will just be a tool of one trough glutton to shove a few others away for awhile. 2013-03-12 13:41:19 Permalink
Goforbroke Posts: 5212 Incept: 2007-11-30 Just call me 'Comrade' Online	At what point ARE "our" representatives going to talk about it? When it actually occurs? ---------- We have met the enemy and it is us. -- Pogo 2013-03-12 13:46:19 Permalink